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Fringe Episode 102 - Glyphs

      Email Post       9/17/2008 12:22:00 AM      

Here are the Fringe Glyphs from Episode 102 - The Same Old Story

16 Comments:

Drewski-O said...

The leaf has the Greek letter Delta, which is used to denote change. This probably has some sort of meaning like biological change, as in bringing dead people back to life and bionic limbs and stuff.

And the frog has the Greek letter Phi in it, but I'm not totally sure what that could be hinting to.

Danny said...

Delta and change...
the Phi phenomenon

"They say that if you put a frog into a pot of boiling water,
it will leap out right away to escape the danger.

But, if you put a frog in a kettle that is filled with water that is cool and pleasant,
and then you gradually heat the kettle until it starts boiling,
the frog will not become aware of the threat until it is too late.
The frog's survival instincts are geared towards detecting sudden changes. "

interesting things to question

This is a story that is used to illustrate how people might get themselves into terrible trouble.
This parable is often used to illustrate how humans have to be careful to watch slowly changing trends in the environment, not just the sudden changes. Its a warning to keep us paying attention not just to obvious threats but to more slowly developing ones.

Sean said...

I have two points to make. First I aggree that there are symbols located in these glyphs and i think they are greek and that it is possible that the lights designate an order to the greek letters. Also it may be possible we are over thinking this and that the objects are just first letter tags like 'a' for apple and f for flower and frog.

Second I think that inside the apple where the seeds should be is the ultra sound image of two identical fetuses. Maybe alluring to the test tube babies. And with the flower I almost can swear that the odd petal on the flower is a dragonfly wing or that it designates an hour like ten or eleven o clock.

courtney said...

Ok,, To add to all of that I think you might be on to something with the lights... I think it is a time line. I think that the light dots represent the rise and fall of the sun. Depending on where it is, in the story line. Also by looking at the sun in the frogs pic, the frog seems to be the last thought or when it is to late. (like in the boiling water)

Sean said...

The symbol in the frog is actually the symbol for the Golden ratio which is linked to the Fibonacci sequence. And is seen in the evidence sites. Ultimately the site http://1.61803398874989484820458683436563811.com/ is the golden ratio. And as you can see in the 3rd piece of evidence the coordinates in the very first piece of evidence are shown with the equation. Does this mean the 'pattern' is based on fibonacci numbers and their ratio? I think the symbol/"Triangle" on the leaf has to do with the 'math' used in the series and from the evidence websites. Notice the dot above the left arm of the triangle...

Drewski-O said...

I was kinda thinking of the Phi Phenomenon and Golden Ratio as well, but I wasn't sure how they would relate. Seeing what sean had to say, I'd agree that it has something to do with the Golden Ratio. I was unaware it related to Fibonacci's Sequence.

And as for the Flower, the odd petal is certainly some kind of insect wing. That's a good point that it's location could mean something, I never thought of that before. Aside from possibly meaning a time, it could also be a compass direction, such as north west.

Anonymous said...

The official podcast on Fox's website has an interview w/ Abrams where he mentions we should be keeping track of the order in which these images appear. So, my guess is that each glyph denotes a letter or possibly a word.

Drewski-O said...

Thanks for the info Anon, I actually kept track of the glyphs during the pilot episode. They appeared in this order"
-Butterfly
-Leaf
-Hand
-Apple
-Frog
-Hand
-Apple

I didn't keep track during the second episode, I really didn't think it would mean anything and kinda laughed at myself for paying attention to it the first time!

on another note, there is a glyph of a seahorse that hasn't been shown yet on air.

Anonymous said...

We watched the episode 102 - the same old story on Apple TV and the Glyphs at the start of the commercial segments were different than what is posted here....we got them in this order
Apple
Leaf
Flower
Flower
Apple
and the light dots were in different places on all except the last two.... any thought????

Anonymous said...

We have seen the leaf already at the very end of the pilot when the deceased john scott is being wheeled in to be "questioned." Maybe each glyph represents a different department of massive dynamics.

Anonymous said...

Just a thought. Fringe may be tieing in to lost. If this is the case, does the light around the glyphs represent the mirror matter moon that is associated with some theories on lost?

Anonymous said...

in the opening sequence u can see these images and a seahorse too if I checked it right...
:D

Joanna N said...

I was thinking that, like lost ties back to the Mechizedek/Merlin "theories" of Metaphysics and Alchemy, that The "Pattern" ties to to the "Merlinesque" magical ideas of one perfect pattern (True good) partial reflective patterns (striving towards good) and imperfect, broken or altered patterns, wherein black magic derived it's power from the deviation itself. (Black magic, forces of evil in the Multiverse, same type of thing.) These patterns when created, supposedly created opportunity for time, dimension and universal travel. Also, I think some of the series "Phi" tie-ins might be from the the "Phi Code" itself, (Carl Muck's theory that intelligences use patterns that have absolute values in order to communicate with other intelligences, as in the Mars Face or Pyramids). Also, Anybody notice that 1) the lights moving around the symbols are similar to the locations of the "stations" on the Island in Lost, each of which also has a symbol associated with it and 2) that the seeds inside the apple appear to be similar to the image of an in utero human fetus?

Anonymous said...

http://www.impawards.com/tv/fringe_xlg.html

Other petals of the leaf are also changing into wings.

Anonymous said...

oliva's card that she got on her birthday, that we all assumed came from her evil step dad, also had daisy's on the front... it was not signed!

slygrrl said...

very interesting about the leaf- at first i thought it looked like the eye of providence-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
which could also make sense as it is a symbol that has many secrets surounding it. with the flower, the top pettal does look like a wing, AND if you look closely, you can see that the petal to the right of it also has a see-through petal/wing over it- so is it an insect that is the raised part in the middle? if anyone can figure that one out, i would love to know!

 

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